Natalie Portman...is she really a horrible example??

[meggers]

You can't undo what has been done. Would you rather all those babies get aborted .

Also many many single moms are single...cause of there piece of crap husbands who left them. Where do you lump them?

To me the most stereotypical part of the phrase was calling them all uneducated.

There you go with the abortion stuff again. You know that kids are making bad decisions long before abortion needs to be thought over.

If someone was married & had a child, I lump those in the unintentional single moms group. Where else would I put them? If someone intentionally gets pregnant just to have a child cause they think it's cool or think it's like owning a puppy, I put those in the intentional group. See the difference?

That's not to say one should get assistance & the other shouldn't. It's just to say, society is having an effect on the thinking process of our youth. They think it's totally cool to have a kid.

Well, you may be right about the uneducated part of it & yet, many of those on public assistance got pregnant fairly young, did they not? All of those that I know did. If they couldn't finish school or go to college, wouldn't they be uneducated? I don't think he meant to call anyone stupid; he's just saying they have no education to support themselves. Nor do I think he's against helping them. He's just sick of seeing the wrong folks being idolized & so am I.

[meggers]

I have 2 children and am unmarried living with the father of both.
We are a happy family without the rings and vows.
Of course I do not see her as a problem, she is one of the few I like.
Whenever people come across my family they cannot help but comment on not only how cute and happy my children seem, but how bright they are as well.
We may not be the "ideal family" in society's eyes, but this is the family I have always wanted.
What we lack in money stream we more than make up for in love and respect.

But you have the father there helping & supporting you & the kids. You're not going it alone by any means. And thank goodness you're not! I agree about the money part. Love can make up for a whole lot. I know it doesn't pay the rent, but it keeps you warm if you have to live in a tent
(I just made that up all by myself).

[sunnie_skys]

I agree with the piece of crap husbands leaving. My father was one of them that left and then my mother (who has a college degree) in the middle of the night with 2 children to raise. So for him to say most are uneducated and would starve just ticks me off. It hits close to home, so yes I am offended at his statement. This is just my opinion out of many.

[CW&M Mom]

But you have the father there helping & supporting you & the kids. You're not going it alone by any means. And thank goodness you're not! I agree about the money part. Love can make up for a whole lot. I know it doesn't pay the rent, but it keeps you warm if you have to live in a tent
(I just made that up all by myself).

Natalie Portman is engaged to the father and from what it sounds like they have a very healthy relationship.

She's not alone. She's also 29....not 17 or 18 or 19. Not a teenager..and college educated. Heck not even most of Hollywood have a college degree. She graduated from Harvard and has taken graduate classes as well.

She has more education than I do....and technically has better means to take care of her baby...yet she's the bad one...and I'm the good one for the sole reason that I'm married.


Why was Huckabee not critizie Bristol Palin?. Palin has no real career. Bristol has no real education, no means to actually really support herself other then celbritizing herself and her child. She also has parents that enable her behavior..trying to make it sound better than it truly is.

[CW&M Mom]

I agree with the piece of crap husbands leaving. My father was one of them that left and then my mother (who has a college degree) in the middle of the night with 2 children to raise. So for him to say most are uneducated and would starve just ticks me off. It hits close to home, so yes I am offended at his statement. This is just my opinion out of many.

As I think of all the single moms that I know....probably a good 95% of them are single because of divorce not because they got pregnant before they were married. Of them...probably 50% at least are single because of there piece of crap spouse who left or chose behavior so abhorrent the marriage had to end. They are not necessarily uneducated either. Most of them have college degree's.

[CW&M Mom]

There you go with the abortion stuff again. You know that kids are making bad decisions long before abortion needs to be thought over.

If someone was married & had a child, I lump those in the unintentional single moms group. Where else would I put them? If someone intentionally gets pregnant just to have a child cause they think it's cool or think it's like owning a puppy, I put those in the intentional group. See the difference?

That's not to say one should get assistance & the other shouldn't. It's just to say, society is having an effect on the thinking process of our youth. They think it's totally cool to have a kid.

Well, you may be right about the uneducated part of it & yet, many of those on public assistance got pregnant fairly young, did they not? All of those that I know did. If they couldn't finish school or go to college, wouldn't they be uneducated? I don't think he meant to call anyone stupid; he's just saying they have no education to support themselves. Nor do I think he's against helping them. He's just sick of seeing the wrong folks being idolized & so am I.

I still don't see that Natalie intentionally got pregnant.

Yes yes I know it has become the rage of very young woman to think children are puppy's and they "want one". I don't see how on earth they would look at a 29 year old Natalie Portaman and go "I want one". I doubt they even give a crap about Natalie Portman.

In the end....Natalie and her fiance had a decision to make. Period. You know how I feel about premaritial sex....but in the end...you cannot go back in time. I am very happy that she chose to have the baby. I am also very happy that she's not stick thin...and looks extremely healthy for this pregnancy. This is a rarity now days.

I of course see harmful, horrible behavior from Hollywood...but she is not one that I am remotely concerned about.

[Smee]

I don't think celebrity status obligates anyone to be any kind of role model for anyone. I can kind of understand the angst when it's some celebrity whose market is primarily kids, but otherwise, no, I don't hold celebrities responsible for the choices others make.

I wonder why Huckabee isn't wringing his hands in angst over Charlie Sheen's bad influence. Lots of unmarried sex there to stress over, in addition to the drugs and whatnot, and with young children in the environment. It's a slam dunk for those who think celebrities owe it to us to model good behavior for our kids.

[blossomed]

How about you, Dug? How many single parents do you know that never needed a dime from our government to make it?

Well you can officially say you know one. I am a single woman who has never been married and I have a two year old. I have a full time job with health insurance, I own my home, and my child has a college savings acct. NOT ONE DIME from the government. I also coupon clip, buy mostly second hand clothing, and recycle (I just added that to see if you were paying attention).

I read about his comments from our liberal media today - and my first reaction was obviously annoyance. But then I considered the republican "dont do as I do do as I say, I'm a man and I know whats best" source. I also realize that politicians, movie stars, etc have to say things in order to stay in the media and subsequently the public eye. He accomplished his goal - people are talking about him.

However his choice of talking about Natalie Portman only shows how out of touch he is - a much better choice is MTV's Teen Mom. Admittedly I have never seen the show - but I think it is deplorable for MTV to glamourize teen mothers, and then for them to waste the money from their 15 minutes of fame, sad really.

I wanted my child more than anything else in the world but at 35, I had not found the love of my life. Was I supposed to give up all my dreams waiting for Mr Likely Not going to show up... or should I have just married Mr. You'll Do, I want a Baby and Society says I have to be Married?

And dont get me wrong, I am envious of people who fall in love, get married and have 2.5 children and a white picket fence. But I can't discount or put down people for making it work "non-traditionally."

[jen276here]

I don’t pay attention much to celebrities - I’ve got enough going on in my world to worry about what goes on in theirs, BUT I personally do not care if you are married or not when you have a child - what I care about is whether you are emotionally and/or financially capable of taking care of a child. Being married does not guarantee stability or income either…

And do I really think teens will see Portman (or whomever) and think ‘Ooo, I want a baby too and she’s not married so I don’t have to be either?’ No. Teens will get pregnant because they are too busy trying to have ‘fun’ and don’t think the ‘worst’ will happen to them so they make poor choices…

[Smee]

He accomplished his goal - people are talking about him.

But at the same time, he's also drawn a lot of attention to someone he implies is getting too much attention and someone to whom people otherwise probably wouldn't have really paid much attention to begin with. I'm not at all surprised that he holds and expresses such views, though; I just think it's silly to draw a lot of attention to someone one feels is getting too much attention.