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Old 11-16-2009, 10:46:52 PM   #1
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Globe Million hit by 'plague worse than swine flu

Has anyone heard boo about this on the news...scary stuff!

"A doctor in Western Ukraine who did not want to be named, said:” We have carried out post mortems on two victims and found their lungs are as black as charcoal."

“They look like they have been burned. It’s terrifying.”

Daily Express | World News :: Million hit by 'plague worse than swine flu'


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Old 11-16-2009, 10:57:41 PM   #2
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I couldnt' find anything else on it. Isn't the Daily express kind of like the national enquirer here?
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Originally Posted by cori n wes mom View Post
I couldnt' find anything else on it. Isn't the Daily express kind of like the national enquirer here?
Could be ...I have no idea... I really hope it's bogus!
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Ahh we need someone from the UK LOL
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Originally Posted by cori n wes mom View Post
Ahh we need someone from the UK LOL
Hi. I haven't read the entire article but I am from the U.K so I can tell you that the Daily Express is more of a conservative newspaper so not really like the National Enquirer at all.
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Generally PROMed picks up any new/crazy outbreaks in a timely manner.

Here is what their latest Ukraine entry (that I could find)

INFLUENZA PANDEMIC (H1N1) 2009 (100): UKRAINE: (DONETSK)
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Date: Tue 12 Nov 2009
Source: Novosti News Agency [translated by ATS, edited] <http://novosti.dn.ua/details/102591>


Influenza and acute respiratory viral infections morbidity overview - Ukraine (Donetsk Oblast)
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A total of 3 cases of influenza [pandemic] A/H1N1 and 3 fatalities have been officially registered in the Donetsk Oblast. There were
5007 visits to health care facilities recently. Since the start of the epidemic in Ukraine (30 Oct 2009) 62 486 people, including 24 452 children, sought medical care in the Donetsk Oblast, and 2815 patients have been hospitalized. There were 3 fatalities and tissue samples are being tested for etiological diagnosis. The results of express diagnostic tests show that the majority of flu-like diseases are caused by influenza A virus, however only 3 [pandemic?] influenza
A/H1N1 have been confirmed.

Several local and regional bodies have been created to oversee the epidemic control measures. The sanitary epidemiological service conducts on-the-spot inspections. So far 814 incidents have been inspected and contravention of epidemic control measures, such as absence of masks or disinfection procedures, has been identified in every 5th case. 164 violation fines have been imposed and the work of
22 units has been suspended.

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[Previous reports from the Ukraine have concentrated on outbreaks of influenza-like illness and pandemic influenza 2009 which have occurred in western Ukraine. This report describes cases in the Doentsk Oblast on the eastern border of Ukraine indicating that the epidemic is now country-wide.

A map of the regions of Ukraine showing the Donetsk Oblast in the extreme east of the country can be accessed at <http://www.ukrainianangels.org/regions/regions.php>.

The HealthMap/ProMED-mail interactive map of Ukraine is available at <http://healthmap.org/r/00-1>. - Mod.CP]
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I know that in many of the adult with H1N1, in there autopsies they are finding this DAD diffuse alveolar damage - definition of diffuse alveolar damage in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. Diffuse Aveolar Damage. This is extremely bad damage done to the lungs and not something they see in regular influenza.

My son has lung disease...so I kind of know some of the lung stuff....but one of our internet friends whose daughter has a similar dx...had necrotizing DAD....and is lucky to be alive.

I wonder if what the Ukraine doctors are seeing is actually DAD and since it is rarely seen there a bit shocked at it all.
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This is scaring the heck out of me...
Ukraine Black Lung Epidemic Kills 12 In A Single Day
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Great! What I needed-another thing to worry about.
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