My life is changing -advice?

[selah]

Originally Posted by Mothernature Having a chronic illness myself, I understand the benefit of help and care. My intent was not malicious. I understood Selah offered support as she knew best. However, it came over to numerous people (as shown by the amount of reps and pms I received about that post) overtly religious and proselytizing. I think there needs to be a bit more sensitivity to other religious beliefs-- if any of this should be discussed on a coupon board anyways.

Originally Posted by loaslaen Any of what? religion or medical conditions? Why is religion always singled out as "shouldn't be discussed on a coupon board"? Seems like "anything goes" on the coupon board EXCEPT religion. Sounds like just an excuse for people who don't like Christians IMO. Anyway....hope OP finds comfort....physically and spiritually.

Loaslaen...people just don't understand the healing power of God because they have never experienced it....they have never experienced the Divine power.....I have....been healed many times.

But this is what amazes me....people will suffer for years and never seek God's way.....even some Christians will suffer when they don't have to...but I have realized over the years you can't force people to believe...they either will or they won't. Some people think I am preaching, but I'm really not....I'm just trying to inform them that there is a Healer....it would be one thing to try to tell people of how God heals and you have never been healed, but I have....I have had instance cases and then I have had gradual cases, but the manifestations did come.....without doctors...now don't get me wrong....doctors can help also....but what would you rather have...medicine to just mask the symptoms and can cause side-affects themselves or complete wellness.....but I do realize that God is the only one who can draw people and show them and some people He will never convince because their hearts have been hardened.

And you are right loaslaen....anything a Christian may mention is looked at as foolishness.....but isn't that how God said the world would look at us?.....man....He was right again....

[Hoshi]

I was gonna just ignore it and not weigh in on the religion thing, buuut...
I'm not particularly religious. That being said, I don't mind when people saying things like that they're praying for me or whatever - I'm not offended or anything, and I find it sweet that they care enough to do so.

But I really didn't want to have people debating "the healing power of God" and somesuch. Not everyone believes the same things. It doesn't mean you can't talk about it, but....sometimes people get pushy or insinuate that others with different beliefs are wrong. A lot of the time, these people don't even realize they are upsetting others by what they say and don't realize they're pushing it on others.


Sometimes it's better just to not bring religion into it. I know some people will negative rep me for saying it, but it's what I've always felt was best. Ya know...when I was in Ireland for 3 weeks for a study abroad thing this summer...we were surrounded by catholics. One of the americans in our groups was very, very gay - with the accent and everything...and it was hugely obvious. No one said anything to him about it. We stayed in a catholic college, watched over by an old, tottering priest - he knew we were all protestant, and never once did he mention religion. In Thurles, Co. Tipperary, we were SURROUNDED by catholic priests. We met 3 or 4 of them on a daily basis. No one mentioned religion to us. No students at the catholic college mentioned it. No one at the 10+ churches that we visited did. Politics was fair game (especially for cabbies in the cities), but no one bothered you about religion.
Honestly, I felt more comfortable there. Here, in the south, people are always trying to confront me about my beliefs, trying to get me to feel ashamed or to think more like them.

I know some of ya were just trying to give advice, and that's what seemed like good advice to give. I can see that, and I'm not offended by it. I totally appreciate the thought. But lets try to not get upset and start a religious debate. People believe whatever they believe, and that's their right. I just personally try to be sensitive to others' beliefs.

Please don't be mad at me!

[selah]

Originally Posted by Hoshi I was gonna just ignore it and not weigh in on the religion thing, buuut... I'm not particularly religious. That being said, I don't mind when people saying things like that they're praying for me or whatever - I'm not offended or anything, and I find it sweet that they care enough to do so. But I really didn't want to have people debating "the healing power of God" and somesuch. Not everyone believes the same things. It doesn't mean you can't talk about it, but....sometimes people get pushy or insinuate that others with different beliefs are wrong. A lot of the time, these people don't even realize they are upsetting others by what they say and don't realize they're pushing it on others. Sometimes it's better just to not bring religion into it. I know some people will negative rep me for saying it, but it's what I've always felt was best. Ya know...when I was in Ireland for 3 weeks for a study abroad thing this summer...we were surrounded by catholics. One of the americans in our groups was very, very gay - with the accent and everything...and it was hugely obvious. No one said anything to him about it. We stayed in a catholic college, watched over by an old, tottering priest - he knew we were all protestant, and never once did he mention religion. In Thurles, Co. Tipperary, we were SURROUNDED by catholic priests. We met 3 or 4 of them on a daily basis. No one mentioned religion to us. No students at the catholic college mentioned it. No one at the 10+ churches that we visited did. Politics was fair game (especially for cabbies in the cities), but no one bothered you about religion. Honestly, I felt more comfortable there. Here, in the south, people are always trying to confront me about my beliefs, trying to get me to feel ashamed or to think more like them. I know some of ya were just trying to give advice, and that's what seemed like good advice to give. I can see that, and I'm not offended by it. I totally appreciate the thought. But lets try to not get upset and start a religious debate. People believe whatever they believe, and that's their right. I just personally try to be sensitive to others' beliefs. Please don't be mad at me!

I am definitely not mad at you and am not offended in any way....because like I said before, you and you alone have to come to certain realizations...and I'm not at all trying to put myself on a pedestal....in fact, it is just the opposite....now I do put God on a pedestal, because I have experienced some very divine things which only He could have done....but I never ever wanted to start a debate, but you and I both know, difference of opinions do cause those things to happen without anyone even trying to do that....and to be honest, YOU didn't even start the debate....mothernature did....but when you post something on HUTC asking for advice....you are going to get more than one opinion....you did however make invitation....didn't you?....and like I said, I was not wanting to start a debate....but sometimes they find me...because I definitely have a different opinion. But what I do see on these forums is so many people are suffering with sickness, disease, depression, fear, unhappiness and a lack of joy in their lives....and all the unbelievers can do is send "happy thoughts". Now everyone who is reading this, please take off your pride hats........happy thoughts don't work....and if they did....everyone wouldn't be sick.....but you see, people care so they want to send out something....but you know what....people are STILL SICK.....Me, on the other hand, am in my 50's.....I take 2 pills a day for high-blood pressure....small, small, miligrams.....the doctor told me you are taking a baby dose....but I know soon, I won't be taking those very long....because I believe in God's power....and He has never failed me.

All, I ever meant to do is give another way.....never wanted to hurt or upset or even cause someone to get upset....but how many times do we put our lives in man's hands.....we will spend hundreds of dollars, seeking out doctors, but not once seek or turn to God.....and maybe the reason, certain faiths or denominations don't talk to people about God is because He isn't bubbling over in their spirit.....you can have religion and not a relationship with God, you know ....religion won't get you hooked up...that was what was wrong with the Pharisees.

It's okay to strictly show love....such as the Catholics were doing, but I bet if any of you went to them and said, you know, I have a problem in this area...they would tell you the God side. And basically, that is what you did. Your topic was...my life is changing-advice?....so that is why I responded....plain and simple.

I really do hope you find the answers to your problems, you are way to young to be battling with some of the things you are battling with.....and since you said you aren't offended with people praying....I will do that....

And out of respect, I won't reply to others if they want to debate with me...unless of course they want to pm me ....I see right now, you are not interested in my speaking of God, so I will let others advice you as best as they know how.....hope, however, that you do get some relief and I mean that from the bottom of my heart....thank you for being kind and I will do the same.

[loaslaen]

Originally Posted by Hoshi I was gonna just ignore it and not weigh in on the religion thing, buuut... I'm not particularly religious. That being said, I don't mind when people saying things like that they're praying for me or whatever - I'm not offended or anything, and I find it sweet that they care enough to do so. But I really didn't want to have people debating "the healing power of God" and somesuch. Not everyone believes the same things. It doesn't mean you can't talk about it, but....sometimes people get pushy or insinuate that others with different beliefs are wrong. A lot of the time, these people don't even realize they are upsetting others by what they say and don't realize they're pushing it on others. Sometimes it's better just to not bring religion into it. I know some people will negative rep me for saying it, but it's what I've always felt was best. Ya know...when I was in Ireland for 3 weeks for a study abroad thing this summer...we were surrounded by catholics. One of the americans in our groups was very, very gay - with the accent and everything...and it was hugely obvious. No one said anything to him about it. We stayed in a catholic college, watched over by an old, tottering priest - he knew we were all protestant, and never once did he mention religion. In Thurles, Co. Tipperary, we were SURROUNDED by catholic priests. We met 3 or 4 of them on a daily basis. No one mentioned religion to us. No students at the catholic college mentioned it. No one at the 10+ churches that we visited did. Politics was fair game (especially for cabbies in the cities), but no one bothered you about religion. Honestly, I felt more comfortable there. Here, in the south, people are always trying to confront me about my beliefs, trying to get me to feel ashamed or to think more like them. I know some of ya were just trying to give advice, and that's what seemed like good advice to give. I can see that, and I'm not offended by it. I totally appreciate the thought. But lets try to not get upset and start a religious debate. People believe whatever they believe, and that's their right. I just personally try to be sensitive to others' beliefs. Please don't be mad at me!

No one's mad. The question was:

"My question is this: How do you deal with this kind of thing? I'm kind of scared right now."

Since this is a coupon board, some people might go out and shop and get great deals to get that "high" feeling that makes them forget about their troubles for a little while and gets their adrenaline going.

Some people try to drown out their problems with pain pills, medication, alcohol, drugs or food.

And yet others turn to a Higher Power.

The question was how do YOU deal with this kind of thing? When I am sick and scared and it seems like no one can help me. When doctors, who have studied the human to try to learn to heal and cure, cannot solve the problem, then I think it's time to seek a Higher Power. What better person to turn to than the One who created you?

You asked how to deal with it, and dealing with it involves seeking comfort. I personally turn to the Comforter.

Selah invited you to the group because some people find comfort in others. Comfort can be in talking with others that have dealt with the same or similar situation, or in finding others who care and offer prayers that will bring you comfort.

Someone offering an answer to a question with how THEY deal with it should not be something that is debated. Some people have walked in her shoes and prayer HAS been the answer. Religion isn't always about JUST the afterlife. It's also about dealing with THIS life.

[Hoshi]

I was actually kinda talking about the debate doing on in the thread. I don't mean that people posting religious things makes me angry.
But, do understand.... look from my perspective. I'm not religious, but I'm being told by multiple members to "seek a higher power" and such. But, you see, I don't believe in that. So it doesn't do much for me.
It's one of those perspective things. To the person, they're not preaching - they're giving good advice To me, they're kind of preaching religious views at me. Who's perception is right? There's no such thing.
I'm truly not trying to be rude, but am just trying to shed light on the other perspective. Things look differently from the other side of it.

But, honestly, I'm not offended or anything. In no way do I look down upon Christians, but unfortunately, I've met quite a few (I don't mean anyone on this board) who look down on me for not holding the same religious beliefs. Some act as if I'm less of a person than they just because I don't believe the same about God....even though I strive to be a good, caring person.