Swine Flu Vaccine - Will you get it? - Page 4

beth119 · 08-09-2009, 10:02:46 AM

Originally Posted by server18

NO, I never said the vacination was socialized medicine, read my post over. You always seem to twist people's words.

Things are a little different now than what they used to be 45+ years ago, when I got my small pox, polio etc. vaccination. Didn't you get them? Why are you calling them stupid?

I shoud have know you would give me a negative rep for my opinon, but thats ok, you are just who you are! Some day Honey you will wake up and smell the roses.

So disease's that could do a lot of harm 45 years ago... are differnt than disease's that can do a lot of harm today? :shrug7:

Yes, I got the vaccines.

I don't understand you reasoning for screaming about an optional vaccine that could help people.
There is NO LOGIC to it!

raesana · 08-09-2009, 10:26:33 AM

We never get "optional vaccines". I also believe that it's just another way to make money off of people's fears.

Have you all seen that commercial recently pushing vaccines for meningitis? They show little children running around and having fun while they tell you it could be the last day they live. So ridiculous.

My son and I have never had a flu shot and we've never had the flu. I think our bodies are strong enough to fight them off. Plus I always read these articles about how we get these shots and then the bacteria turns itself into a super strain of flu. If we should happen to get the flu, then great, it'll strengthen our immune systems.

We're not big fans of unnecessary doctor's visits or medications. I say keep 'em out of the clinics and they won't get sick. Lol! Seriously though, we don't take medicines (prescriptions, tylenol, pepto, etc) unless we're close to death. I can count those times on one hand. Knock on wood.

server18 · 08-09-2009, 10:35:25 AM

Umm yea, its a whole new world out there right now, scary, WAAAAAY different than it used to be, but like I said hopefully someday you will wake up and smell the roses. The vaccinations then were to help to not get sick, I'm not so sure on the vaccination these days, or this one anyway.
Our government right now does not want this many people, there is too many of us, if this new socialized medicine gets in, this is just ONE of the many ways of getting rid of people, the elderly for example. But like I said this is a whole new topic. This thread is about the swine flue.

beth119 · 08-09-2009, 12:04:30 PM

Originally Posted by server18

Umm yea, its a whole new world out there right now, scary, WAAAAAY different than it used to be, but like I said hopefully someday you will wake up and smell the roses. The vaccinations then were to help to not get sick, I'm not so sure on the vaccination these days, or this one anyway.
Our government right now does not want this many people, there is too many of us, if this new socialized medicine gets in, this is just ONE of the many ways of getting rid of people, the elderly for example. But like I said this is a whole new topic. This thread is about the swine flue.

Holy right wing scare tactics, batman! Koolaid propoganda!

WHy don't you come over to the other thread and show us where they are getting rid of old people!

I am begging you to show me proof. Can you?

My grandfather said that in France they let people die to have population control!

Old people live like 5 years longer there!

kval07 · 08-09-2009, 01:32:02 PM

Wait, I'm confused. Have you ever gotten "government" shots or not?

Originally Posted by server18

Noway in HELL would I ever get any shots that are put out by the government, especially this one. Ummm there's too many of us, hence the socialized medicine, but I guess this is a whole new topic.

Does anyone wonder how many of the people that died from the swine flu had the shot?

READ all the post in here, I am not the only one thinking this way.

Originally Posted by server18

NO, I never said the vacination was socialized medicine, read my post over. You always seem to twist people's words.

Things are a little different now than what they used to be 45+ years ago, when I got my small pox, polio etc. vaccination. Didn't you get them? Why are you calling them stupid?

I shoud have know you would give me a negative rep for my opinon, but thats ok, you are just who you are! Some day Honey you will wake up and smell the roses.

Liz · 08-09-2009, 05:33:27 PM

Originally Posted by server18

Noway in HELL would I ever get any shots that are put out by the government, especially this one. Ummm there's too many of us, hence the socialized medicine, but I guess this is a whole new topic.
Does anyone wonder how many of the people that died from the swine flu had the shot?

READ all the post in here, I am not the only one thinking this way.
NO ~ NO ~ NO

Keep your shot and shove it!!

Of course Doctors want you to get it, they want the money!!

Originally Posted by server18

NO, I never said the vacination was socialized medicine, read my post over. You always seem to twist people's words.

Things are a little different now than what they used to be 45+ years ago, when I got my small pox, polio etc. vaccination. Didn't you get them? Why are you calling them stupid?

I shoud have know you would give me a negative rep for my opinon, but thats ok, you are just who you are! Some day Honey you will wake up and smell the roses.

Does your tin foil hat come with matching shoes?

Yes, things are different from the 1960s. People crippled, put into iron lungs and wheelchairs because of the lovely effects of polio? Yeah, those vaccinations are just BAD BAD BAD!! Why would we have ever wanted to stop that?!

You need to "wake up and smell the roses." If you think that vaccinations are these huge moneymakers for doctors, you're quite ill informed. The reimbursement rate is dismal, and quite a few practices don't keep stock on hand because they lose quite a bit of money by doing so.

And for the record, honey, you're not that bright if you're implying that the swine flu vaccine is responsible for deaths that have been attributed to swine flu because quite frankly, the vaccine in still in development and testing--and has not been administered outside of the recently started clinical trials.

Get your facts straight before you go spouting off at the mouth. It makes your look very ignorant.

marysuzannej · 08-09-2009, 07:37:04 PM

To the original question: yes, everyone in my household, child and adults, will definitely get both vaccines (all three injections), absolutely as soon as possible after distribution begins.

I don't know any of the players in the argument above but I can't resist commenting: I am a Federal Gov't employee working in the healthcare education field (in immunization). Sadly, I am familiar with the devastation caused by influenza every year, so I take flu shots and other scientifically-proven preventive measures very seriously. I am also relatively well-educated on flu pandemics, and on this year's swine flu in specific -- and I am taking it very seriously, too. It will be back in the news here in the US soon, I can promise you that!

Important note: the Government is neither developing nor selling regular flu vaccine, or swine flu vaccine. The Government is not requiring anyone (except special cases, such as certain military folks or Gov't-employed lab workers, etc., whose jobs require vaccination) to be vaccinated. All the Government is doing related to flu and swine flu is collecting and sharing information, including suggested steps one can take to protect oneself to the best of one's ability. (And, of course, the Gov't will ultimately pay much of the health cost for uninsured or underinsured people who choose to remain at risk and become sick or die - but that's another issue.) It's entirely up to each and every person to decide whether or not to be vaccinated, preferably with guidance from his/her healthcare provider. No one is forcing it on you.

And hey -- there's an upside for me to someone else choosing not to be vaccinated: if you don't get the vaccine, that leaves more vaccine to go around for me and my family! (and, since we'll be protected by the vaccine, we won't be able to catch the viruses from you when you get them.)

Colinsgrandma · 08-19-2009, 04:12:04 PM

I always get a flu shot and I will get both this year. I'm old enough to have lived through two pandemics already and they are no fun. The government, health departments and emergency agencies have been planning for a pandemic for the last couple of years, they thought it might be H5N1. There has been panic in other parts of the world where the flu is prevalent. It was on the news tonight that up to 40% of the work force could be out at once. Worse case is quarantine, that could be your city or your state. What you have in your house is what you have to live on. It seems extreme but if this virus mutates and becomes more virulent it could happen.