Giant Eagle: Chit Chat 11/5-11/11

[jen276here]

It has been suggested that all non-deal talk be moved to a separate thread because we are clogging up the deal thread! (Who us??? :whistle67:)

I suggest whoever wants to start talking about the new ad begin a new thread for us all to congregate in. I think we should use the same title each week with the dates of the ad to make it easier to find the chat thread.

mdshopper - did you want to dechat the deal thread into here?

[tfinetwins]

Sounds like a great plan to me. So I am reading toothpaste may be free. I think I need some help with that deal. Which toothpaste is on sale and what coupons do I need to order? We need toothpaste, especially kids toothpaste!

[daniellematis]

Sorry but the above is deal talk and this is the chit chat thread, HAHAHA! I crack me up!

I would like to say all the talk about the coffee deal makes me want donuts.

[cathy67redhead]

so what is everyone making with all those biscuts??, besides biscuts....i made biscuts and used the sliced ham(warmed) and melted cheese on top and made 'sandwiches' (and free mustard from summer)for dinner. yummy. later this week i am making fried dough, i divide biscuts into 4, drop in hot oil, lightly brown, drain on paper towels and sprinkle with cinnamin sugar.

[jen276here]

Am I the only one who didn't buy any Pillsbury this week? I just don't like them that much! :shock2:

[tfinetwins]

Am I the only one who didn't buy any Pillsbury this week? I just don't like them that much! :shock2:

I didnt buy any either. I prefer to make my own bread products.

[s24s]

I bought the Pillsbury cinnamon rolls... we don't really eat them. BUT... when it was a money maker-- I couldn't resist! I have managed to pass out 11 out of my 22 to friends and family. The looks on people's faces when I give them a bag of them are priceless!

[Topazjules]

Am I the only one who didn't buy any Pillsbury this week? I just don't like them that much! :shock2:

I didn't either! I pretty much make my own items from scratch (biscuits, pizza dough, etc.) and stay away from processed foods as much as I can. It has to be a really good moneymaker for me to buy something I don't use or it has to be something shelf stable so I can store and then donate it. I'm bummed I can't find Q's for the Land O Lakes butter quarters. Since I do make so much of my own items I like to use good quality butter and Land O Lakes is what I like.

[RAVmom]

Am I the only one who didn't buy any Pillsbury this week? I just don't like them that much! :shock2:

I didn't buy any either. I "bought" free Pillsbury cinnamon rolls a few weeks ago, because they were free and I thought my family might like the variety from my homemade cinnamon rolls. They politely told me that they don't want the Pillsbury ones again, they like mine better.

As for biscuits, with my food processor I can have a batch mixed in about 5 mins. and I know what I put in them.

I did load up on meat though. Lots of roasts in the freezer and lots of really cheap gravy mix for easy crockpot meals in the busy days ahead.

[erin6_99]

Am I the only one who didn't buy any Pillsbury this week? I just don't like them that much! :shock2:

I didn't either. They all have milk in them and ds is allergic.

[GracieCappello]

I got 12 Grands, and 6 Cinnamon rolls. I LOVE those cinnamon rolls, but don't really like the Grands. They are good for Thanksgiving and Christmas though.

I am definitely looking forward to the 11-05 sales. What will all you be getting??

I am planning on picking up about 9 bags of the GG Fresh Valley Steamers, 6 BC Potato Boxes, some Cresent rolls, 12 boxes Post Cereal (I found some $4/4 coupons on eBay so if I buy 12 boxes and use 3 coupons, I will get the all 12 for $4!), 6 Dole Fruit Bowls, and IF I can get my hands on LOL butter and Pillsbury Cake Mix coupons, I will get some of those too!!

:smile:

[WhyPayMore]

Am I the only one who didn't buy any Pillsbury this week? I just don't like them that much! :shock2:


I didn't buy any Pillsbury either; I bought the grands biscuits the last time they were on sale and generated a cat, and I still have three cans. I usually make my own cinnamon rolls, pizza dough, pie crust, etc. I did buy the gingerbread and pumpkin cookie mixes to get free cake pans and cookie sheets for Christmas gifts, and will probably donate most of the mixes to our church food bank.

This week I used some of my $1.00 cats from the Swanson deal to stock up on 24 cans of Contadina tomato paste (I'm Italian, we go through lots of tomato paste); it was on TPR 5/$3.00, and I used a $1/4 q from coupons.com and a $1.00 cat for every four cans, six times, so $.10/can. I also did the Kellogg's deal with the $.75 coupons from the Kellogg's website, got the $3.00 cat; I plan to buy Crisco shortening next week with the $1.00 q in the 11/8 Redplum and the $3.00 cat from the Kellogg's deal, so $1.25 for the 3 lb. can. Too bad the shortening isn't included in the $2 cat deal next week!

[jen276here]

I didn't buy any Pillsbury either; I bought the grands biscuits the last time they were on sale and generated a cat, and I still have three cans. I usually make my own cinnamon rolls, pizza dough, pie crust, etc. I did buy the gingerbread and pumpkin cookie mixes to get free cake pans and cookie sheets for Christmas gifts, and will probably donate most of the mixes to our church food bank.

This week I used some of my $1.00 cats from the Swanson deal to stock up on 24 cans of Contadina tomato paste (I'm Italian, we go through lots of tomato paste); it was on TPR 5/$3.00, and I used a $1/4 q from coupons.com and a $1.00 cat for every four cans, six times, so $.10/can. I also did the Kellogg's deal with the $.75 coupons from the Kellogg's website, got the $3.00 cat; I plan to buy Crisco shortening next week with the $1.00 q in the 11/8 Redplum and the $3.00 cat from the Kellogg's deal, so $1.25 for the 3 lb. can. Too bad the shortening isn't included in the $2 cat deal next week!


I'm NOT Italian but go through tons of tomato paste! :hysterical:

I guess I'm not alone on not getting the Pillsbury! :giggle2:

[petergabrielfan]

Am I the only one who didn't buy any Pillsbury this week? I just don't like them that much! :shock2:
None for me either. They're a trans fat bomb. :giggle2: I love to bake and cook, so we're bread product snobs at the petergabrielfan house. Even when they're a money maker I can't bring myself to buy them because I don't have anyone to give them to. My mom doesn't really cook and my MIL is like me...a food snob. Most of my girlfriends are bakers too.

[RAVmom]

Wow, I had no idea so many of you are bakers!

My single biggest tip for saving money on food/eating out is to make my own pizza dough. I can't imagine the amount of $$$ I have saved over the years by not doing pizza takeout very often. We usually buy pizza out one every month or two and I make it once a week at home.

I can't wait for the Land O Lakes deal next week! Time to stock up for holiday baking.

[s24s]

Is there a LOL coupon out there that is going to make the LOL deal any better? (besides the IP one)?

[petergabrielfan]

Forgive me for clogging up our chit chat thread with deal talk, :hysterical: but the Betty Crocker potatoes on sale next week are the boxes/dehydrated thingies, right? I keep a few of those on hand for quickie meals and I'm trying to make sure I have the right thing in mind.

[sandmike123]

Forgive me for clogging up our chit chat thread with deal talk, :hysterical: but the Betty Crocker potatoes on sale next week are the boxes/dehydrated thingies, right? I keep a few of those on hand for quickie meals and I'm trying to make sure I have the right thing in mind.


Yes, they are the dehydrated thingies..LMAO

[sandmike123]

If you search Pillsbury.com there are a lot of recipes using cinnamon rolls. I think I am going to try this one Cinnamon French Toast Bake from Pillsbury.com (http://www.pillsbury.com/Recipes/ShowRecipe.aspx?rid=14461) .

[MJKNEeley]

I got 12 Grands, and 6 Cinnamon rolls. I LOVE those cinnamon rolls, but don't really like the Grands. They are good for Thanksgiving and Christmas though.

I am definitely looking forward to the 11-05 sales. What will all you be getting??

I am planning on picking up about 9 bags of the GG Fresh Valley Steamers, 6 BC Potato Boxes, some Cresent rolls, 12 boxes Post Cereal (I found some $4/4 coupons on eBay so if I buy 12 boxes and use 3 coupons, I will get the all 12 for $4!), 6 Dole Fruit Bowls, and IF I can get my hands on LOL butter and Pillsbury Cake Mix coupons, I will get some of those too!!

:smile:

How do you keep these for Thanksgiving and Christmas? I have heard mixed opinions on freezing (thought they would pop).
TIA

[AJS6726]

so what is everyone making with all those biscuts??, besides biscuts....i made biscuts and used the sliced ham(warmed) and melted cheese on top and made 'sandwiches' (and free mustard from summer)for dinner. yummy. later this week i am making fried dough, i divide biscuts into 4, drop in hot oil, lightly brown, drain on paper towels and sprinkle with cinnamin sugar.


This made me think about the meal I made last night....

chicken tenders (on sale the week I bought them plus an in-store coupon on the pack, paid less than 2.00 for them)
bread crumbs - breaded the tenders & fried them (last of my free crumbs from Weis)
Homemade gravy
Homemade mac & cheese (free Barilla from GE & free Heluva Good cheese block back from when Superfresh had triples)
Mashed Potatoes (.09 a pouch from GE)
Steamfresh corn (free from GE)

so I guess with the above & the flour, shortening, milk....what, around $3-3.50 ?

And had enough for leftovers tonite :-)

[AmyRD]

How do you keep these for Thanksgiving and Christmas? I have heard mixed opinions on freezing (thought they would pop).
TIA

Mine don't expire till the end of Jan so they can last awhile. I have never tried to freeze them but as you ment I have heard others say they have done it and others not.

[petergabrielfan]

Mine don't expire till the end of Jan so they can last awhile. I have never tried to freeze them but as you ment I have heard others say they have done it and others not.
I've never done it, but I would think you could safely freeze them outside the tube, either by baking them first and then thawing and reheating or taking them out of the tube and putting them into a Ziploc. I don't think I'd try to freeze them in the cardboard tube, though. :giggle2:

[petergabrielfan]

Couple things from my GE visit tonight:

1) BOLF for a free-standing display for Pepperidge Farm. It has a little booklet with a bunch of recipes and coupons for:
$.55/1 Pepperidge Farm Puff Pastry Sheets or Shells
$.55/1 Pepperidge Farm Cookies (3-8.6 oz)
$.55/1 Pepperidge Farm Bread, Rolls, Bagels or English Muffins
$.55/3 Campbell's Condensed Cream Soups or Swanson 26 oz. Stock.

2) Also, GE now has boxes of crackers from Keebler marked with the Toy Cash rebate everyone is talking about. I had to look behind the front boxes to find them.

[neekyme]

Can someone please explain to me why I have 30+ cookie mix pouches that only I like, 20 cans of broth that i don't know how to use, and 3 boxes of bisquik that I don't know how to use either? LOL

Thank goodness the food bank drive is coming up!

[tfinetwins]

Can someone please explain to me why I have 30+ cookie mix pouches that only I like, 20 cans of broth that i don't know how to use, and 3 boxes of bisquik that I don't know how to use either? LOL

Thank goodness the food bank drive is coming up!


I have an awesome recipe for Broccoli, Cheese and Chicken Pie that uses bisquik. It comes out sort of quiche like. Super yummy and once by 2 year old veggie and meat phobic twins ate it. Never again though. LOL

[neekyme]

I have an awesome recipe for Broccoli, Cheese and Chicken Pie that uses bisquik. It comes out sort of quiche like. Super yummy and once by 2 year old veggie and meat phobic twins ate it. Never again though. LOL

ohh I have a recipe for something like that - it comes out like a crustless-quiche, yum! I found that if you puree half of the broccoli it's super yummy!

I dunno, if Bisquick still tastes the same as it did 30 years ago, there's something about it that I never liked....I don't think I've tasted it since I was little though - so maybe my tastes have changed. I got the one without trans fats, so I may open a box and see. But I have my own pancake recipe that is super easy and which the kids claim are 'the best pancakes ever' so I'm not going to mess with that! lol

I sooo need to learn how to cook though - I'm clueless when it comes to making a nice sit-down dinner (other than Thanksgiving). I would love to know how to make a roast, or even meatloaf LOL We were never big meat eaters when I was young - other than game-meat, but by the time I was old enough to learn how to cook, all my mom made from it was usually just hamburgers or grilled steaks.

About the only thing I can make that my picky family likes is lasagna. I make a mean mexican lasagna too - but only I like mexican food!

I think I'm going to make my mom write down some of her recipes for me. I've been in the mood for potato & leek soup, or broccoli soup...I'm not a big fan of canned soups - but I love homemade stews and cream soups :-)

[petergabrielfan]

I use the trans fat free Bisquick and like it. It doesn't taste as salty as the regular. If you look on their website there are some good recipes and the recipes on the box are good too.

Tell me about it! I bought 4 crappy, hideous canned frostings yesterday for the free eggs and pan. Cost me $2 and I'm donating those babies along with some free cake mix! :giggle2:

[petergabrielfan]

Also, Neekyme (sorry...don't know your first name) do you ever make homemade soups? The broths make great starters. Also, I personally don't like them cooked this way, but a lot of people I know a lot of people cook their veggies in meat broth to add flavor.

[WhyPayMore]

Can someone please explain to me why I have 30+ cookie mix pouches that only I like, 20 cans of broth that i don't know how to use, and 3 boxes of bisquik that I don't know how to use either? LOL

Thank goodness the food bank drive is coming up!


The garlic cheese biscuits from the recipe on the package of Bisquick are really good...they taste (almost) like the ones at Red Lobster. The biscuits and pancakes are the only two things I use bisquick for.

[petergabrielfan]

Yes! I forgot to mention those biscuits. We make them a lot and they are good.

[MJKNEeley]

Neeky, get some of the cheap roasts when they are BOGO. Put them in the crock pot or the oven at 350. I just put some seasoned salt, worcestershire (sp?) sauce, sometimes some italian dressing, garlic salt (whatever I have in the cupboard) in on it. If you want, chop some potatoes (don't even need to peel them) and throw in some of the baby cut carrots. Add some water (maybe half way up the roast), cover and go. I let mine cook about 4 hrs b/c it will make the meat more tender (especially if you get a cheap cut). Then serve it with a bag o cheap veggies! KEEP THE BROTH!!
If you put it in the crock pot, I put it on high and let it cook all day.

When dinner is over, if you have leftovers, pull the meat apart (or cut it, whatever you like), dump it back into the roaster with the broth and add a bag of cheap stew vegetables or whatever veggies you like and you have vegetable beef soup. If you don't have enough broth, use some of the canned beef to it. I also like to add a can of crushed tomatoes and my MIL likes to add those white canned beans.

I do the same deal with the roaster chickens. Cook it up in the roaster w/ whatever seasonings you have and enough water to keep it from drying out. Serve for dinner or pull it apart, put it back in the broth, add some of those cheap noodles we got this week, maybe some of the free corn too and presto! You have homemade chicken noodle soup. You can serve it with some of those cheap Betty Crocker instant potatoes if you need to stretch it a bit.

I have learned some pretty creative ideas with these deals lately - and the family likes them!

[meems]

I'm NOT Italian but go through tons of tomato paste! :hysterical:

I guess I'm not alone on not getting the Pillsbury! :giggle2:


No Pillsbury for me..but only 'cause I'm slacking! I don't even know WHAT the pills deal is! I even have some 1/1 peelies for crescents that hopefully are still valid, are those included?

[meems]

I've never done it, but I would think you could safely freeze them outside the tube, either by baking them first and then thawing and reheating or taking them out of the tube and putting them into a Ziploc. I don't think I'd try to freeze them in the cardboard tube, though. :giggle2:


I have frozen these before..they didn't pop & tasted fine, but they just didn't rise quite like non frozen ones do.

[cheapchick]

I went to GE 3 times and they didn't have the Pillsbury stuff...had to get a RC. Went in today to grab a few things (milk prices went up...do cows make less milk in cold weather or something?) and checked the Pillsbury status...even more wiped than when they were on sale! WTH? CS lady gave me a hard time about the RC too...she wrote it for 6/$6 and I told her it should be 6/$2 cuz of the OYNO. She said they don't do that and it's just for the sale period but I told her I was in 3 times! I mean why should I miss out just because they didn't have it stocked? All the other CS ladies always deduct the OYNO. She gave me that "just this one time" line and I thought, "Well, next time I won't ask you!" :giggle2:

I don't buy the Pillsbury stuff but my mom wanted them. I usually make my own cinnamon rolls but for so cheap I couldn't resist them! If I even get them! :shrug7:

[PK_OH]

I can hardly cook but I can make roasts.

I use the crockpot. I take the roast with a pack of onion soup mix, a can of cream of mushroom soup, and a bunch of water to cover the roast. I've used name brand and el cheapo and it doesn't matter so usually its Aldi's or Great Value (Walmart) brands for the soup mix and the soup. I put it in on high and let it go. I try to give mine 6 hours and then it falls apart.

You can do the above with or without browning the roast first. You get a better flavor if you brown it first. I didn't know how to do this but this is how I learned to. I put the frying pan on the stove with a little oil in it and heat it up. I open up the plastic over the BIGIF bundle of roast love from GE, coat the top with salt, pepper, granulated garlic and a little cayenne, then tip the tray over to dump that side down in the frying pan. I let that go a bit while I do the same seasoning to the other side of the roast, then I flip it. It only takes a few minutes.

My crockpot is only 5 quart and we like a lot of potatoes so I don't put them in with the roast. I will if I remember dump a bag of baby carrots from the produce dept. in with it. For potatoes, I make separatelly and the recipe I use is very very simple:
3 lbs potatoes (I use red or regular - doesn't matter)
1 stick of butter (I cut lengthwise into strips and spread on top)
1 cup water (this is all you need believe me altho it doesn't seem like enough)
1 envelope dry onion soup mix (same el cheapo)
Slice potatoes unpeeled into baking dish (I use one of those Corelle White things). Add butter, onion soup mix and water - I do in that order that way the water kinda washes over the soup mix. Cover and bake 1 hour at 350 degrees.

These turn out very very moist and very good.

I do this recipe a lot with those BIGIF roasts from GE and it seems to work the same regardless of how high on the food chain the roast quality is. What I haven't tried yet but would like to is making the roast and then using 1 cup of the juice from that as the water with the potatoes to see if that makes them taste more like they were made with the roast.

[cathy67redhead]

Can someone please explain to me why I have 30+ cookie mix pouches that only I like, 20 cans of broth that i don't know how to use, and 3 boxes of bisquik that I don't know how to use either? LOL

Thank goodness the food bank drive is coming up!
i made rice in the microwave last week and cooked in chicken broth. gave the rice an awesome flavor and OMG my picky kids even ate it!!!

[mojitos*mommy]

If you search Pillsbury.com there are a lot of recipes using cinnamon rolls. I think I am going to try this one Cinnamon French Toast Bake from Pillsbury.com (http://www.pillsbury.com/Recipes/ShowRecipe.aspx?rid=14461) .

I made this Cinnamon French Toast Bake from Pillbury.com this morning for breakfast and it is a keeper in my family.

Last night I made a delicious garlic cheese bread with the Grands. I used a pyrex loaf pan, sprayed it with PAM. I then opened 2 "cans" of GRANDS and lined the bottom of the pan with them - I overlapped them first in one direction, then the other side in the opposite direction. Then I melted about 1/4c margarine with about 2 cloves of minced garlic. I poured this over the Grands. Then topped with about 1 c. of grated cheddar cheese. DH & DD's raved about this recipe. I think I got this recipe from Recipezaar.com a while ago, but now I just "wing it".

[daniellematis]

ohh I have a recipe for something like that - it comes out like a crustless-quiche, yum! I found that if you puree half of the broccoli it's super yummy!

I dunno, if Bisquick still tastes the same as it did 30 years ago, there's something about it that I never liked....I don't think I've tasted it since I was little though - so maybe my tastes have changed. I got the one without trans fats, so I may open a box and see. But I have my own pancake recipe that is super easy and which the kids claim are 'the best pancakes ever' so I'm not going to mess with that! lol

I sooo need to learn how to cook though - I'm clueless when it comes to making a nice sit-down dinner (other than Thanksgiving). I would love to know how to make a roast, or even meatloaf LOL We were never big meat eaters when I was young - other than game-meat, but by the time I was old enough to learn how to cook, all my mom made from it was usually just hamburgers or grilled steaks.

About the only thing I can make that my picky family likes is lasagna. I make a mean mexican lasagna too - but only I like mexican food!

I think I'm going to make my mom write down some of her recipes for me. I've been in the mood for potato & leek soup, or broccoli soup...I'm not a big fan of canned soups - but I love homemade stews and cream soups :-)
OK I had a hard time figuring how to cook the tyson chicken from last week but even I know how to make a meatloaf!

[cheapchick]

I saw a Duh! thing today. I was picking out my Free ICBINB and I hear "Excuse me." This man reaches in front of me and picks up the Value Time Butter for $2.09 and right next to it is the LOL Butter for $2. All I can say is Duh! :rolleyes24::giggle2:

Just wondering if anybody has baked with the ICBINB sticks? I figure since it's a MM I'll get it and use it for my holiday baking. Some things I need real butter for but other things margarine works just fine.

[neekyme]

I can hardly cook but I can make roasts.*snipped awesome directions/recipe

Yum! Ok - now that sounds like something I can do LOL Thanks!

i made rice in the microwave last week and cooked in chicken broth. gave the rice an awesome flavor and OMG my picky kids even ate it!!!

Never thought of that - thanks!

I made this Cinnamon French Toast Bake from Pillbury.com this morning for breakfast and it is a keeper in my family.

Last night I made a delicious garlic cheese bread with the Grands. *snipped

Double Yum! LOL Ok, I'm going to make it my mission this winter to learn how to cook more than just lasagna :-)

OK I had a hard time figuring how to cook the tyson chicken from last week but even I know how to make a meatloaf!

LOL Honestly, I think it's because my mom's meatloaf was disgusting :biggrin: She always trys to make things to 'healthy' and ends up making something only she would like :hysterical:

[daniellematis]

LOL Honestly, I think it's because my mom's meatloaf was disgusting :biggrin: She always trys to make things to 'healthy' and ends up making something only she would like :hysterical:

HAHA! My mom is always doing that too! I can't stand it! I hate every thing vegetable wise so I season the heck out of the meat and bake it! It rocks!
If you still have some of those grill seasoning packets they make a pretty good meat loaf. Oh and no extra lean meat, Fat is delicious!

[FunnyFace]

Don't forget to top the meatloaf with a brown sugar sauce (brown sugar stirred into ketchup) the last 15 minutes. Nothing healthy about that. ;)

[sandmike123]

I found an awesome recipe for Bacon Cheeseburger Meatloaf on Food Network. I think it is a Paula Dean Recipe. It is awesome.. Ground meat, bacon, and cheese... how could you go wrong.

[jmupole1]

Does anyone know when the Steeler bucks campaign is over. I want to make sure I use the coupons I have for the items that generate the bucks before the campaign is over.

[jen276here]

Does anyone know when the Steeler bucks campaign is over. I want to make sure I use the coupons I have for the items that generate the bucks before the campaign is over.


I think February - just not sure on exact day - but I think it is in the first week or two.

[FunnyFace]

I found an awesome recipe for Bacon Cheeseburger Meatloaf on Food Network. I think it is a Paula Dean Recipe. It is awesome.. Ground meat, bacon, and cheese... how could you go wrong.

That sounds delicious. I may have to adjust it to omit the cheese since hubby hates cheese :sad:, but the bacon I'm sure will be a welcomed addition.

[petergabrielfan]

I must confess that I am sooo jonesin' for that new ad. My name is Sarah, and I'm a good deal shopaholic. (Hi Sarah). :hysterical:

[Manthem]

I've been refreshing the forum all morning. Cmonnnnn deals!

[jen276here]

That sounds delicious. I may have to adjust it to omit the cheese since hubby hates cheese :sad:, but the bacon I'm sure will be a welcomed addition.


My one son 'hates' cheese (But loves mac-n-cheese??? someone want to help me with that one?? :shrug7: lol) but anywhoo, when I don't feel like making two dinners, one w/, one w/o, I fib and tell him its butter! :hysterical: I wonder if that would work with your husband???

[petergabrielfan]

I have a friend who hates cheese, and I have to say, it ain't natural! :hysterical: Is there anything more delicious than yummy melted cheese??

[jmupole1]

Thanks so much, I was thinking sometime this month, but I wasn't really into the couponing thing last year and got Steeler bucks without knowing I was getting them lol... Not this year!! This ad rocks for Steeler bucks. I'm stocking up.

[petergabrielfan]

Wish we had those, but the Lions & Browns don't offer anyone much to celebrate. :hysterical: Maybe we should get Lionsbucks for payment to have to suffer through their horrible seasons.

[GracieCappello]

Wish we had those, but the Lions & Browns don't offer anyone much to celebrate. :hysterical: Maybe we should get Lionsbucks for payment to have to suffer through their horrible seasons.

:hysterical: I agree!!! The Browns have done SOO bad this year. What have they won like 1 game??